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in connecticut. we begin with mayor michael bloomberg of new york. >> shame on me if i am, as an american, with the wherewithal to do something, i have the bully pulpit, i have some money to spend to support candidates, shame on me if i don't go and do something. how can i explain to my kids that i didn't dosomething when, you know, i had this able to change the world. >> rose: we continue with john miller, dr. jeffrey lieberman and aborn. >> we have seen in our society a relaxation of cultural norms and constraints, and elevation of individuals of right to express themselves as individuals, freedom of speech, personal autonomy, self-determination. we've seen an elevati of the rits of the indidua to t extent that it's maybe at the expense of the collective society whether it's gun control, right to bear arms or whether it's i can do and say anything and it's my right to do it no matter whom i offend. >> rose: we conclude this evening with mayor julian castro of san antonio and his twin brother joaquin castro, a congressman recently elected from san antonio. >> in the late '70s, maybe it w
's the mayor of new york city and he's also the co-chair of mayors against illegal guns. he's long been an outspoken advocate of gun control. he is now call on the nation's lawmakers to make reducing gun violence their top priority. here's what he said earlier today at a city hall press conference. >> if the massacre in tucson wasn't enough to make our national leaders act, and if the more recent bloodshed in aurora, colorado, and oak creaks wisconsin, and portland oregon and other cities and towns wasn't enough, perhaps the slaughter of innocence at sandy hook elementary school will at long last be enough. back at thismericans hope table. >> thank you for having me. >> rose: on "meet the press" yesterday, at a press conference today you believe that the time is now, that this is the moment to act, and at the same time you are chastising the president for-- i believe the time was a long time ago, the president gave a speech after the massacre in a-- aurora, colorado, saying we have to do something. here we are two years later, another 21,000 people in america killed with guns. we've don
on the beat, they're the ones who have to deal with it. mayors in cities like new york and elsewhere have participated in things like gun buybacks where you offer people a little bit of money it encourages them to bring in their guns. you have about as many guns as people. programs like this or other ones, have to find a way to just get some of the stock that's out there off the streets and either destroy it or get it back in the law-breaking -- nonlawbreaking hands. >> eliot: the 300 million number is obviously the one that is the center of the debate. do gun buybacks, do it alone stop and frisk which is sometimes a topic of substantial conversation from the civil rights perspective. these are critical ways to recover guns but if every gun you get off the streets that an illegal gun can prevent a crime. do we need to put $5 billion into gun buybacks that will do more for safety in our streets than anything else the way australia did, not that number but proportionately. is that something we should say to the federal gov
, interestingly, came as a surprise to me, too, to learn the nra was founded by two "new york times" reporters. >> host: now i know who to blame. >> guest: what they were concerned about was being prepared for national defense like the first world war and making sure that we have enough people in the country who knew how to use firearms that we would not be defeated if it came to a war. >> host: when i grew up, i got the nra badges at summer camp. >> guest: my son got one. >> host: i kept the badges too. it's a point of pride. that was a different nra i think. >> guest: the nra still does a lot of worthwhile training and certifying of ability to use firearms safely, and, but they became politically the leadership that had approved the 68 gun control act was overthrown, replaced by others, and eventually by charles heston was a spokesman for that faction, and now we have, you know, wayne firmly in the saddle, and politically it's very different organization from what it was in 1968, very clearly. it's also been able to raise huge amounts of money and become maybe the most powerful lobby here in
bloomberg. he's the mayor of new york city and he's also the co-chair of mayors against illegal guns. he's long been an outspoken advocate of gun control. he is now call on the nation's lawmakers to make reducing gun violence their top priority. here's what he said earlier today at a city hall press conference. >> if the massacre in tucson wasn't enough to make our national leaders act, and if the more recent bloodshed in aurora, colorado, and oak creaks wisconsin, and portland oregon and other cities and towns wasn't enough, perhaps the slaughter of innocence at sandy hook elementary school will at long last be enough. millions of americans hope that is true. but it's not enough for us to hope. we have to speak up. we have made our voices heard and hold washington accountable for facing up to the epidemic of gun violence in our country. if this moment passes in to memory without action from washington, it will be a stain upon our nation's commitment to protecting the innocence innocent including our children. >> rose: i'm pleased to have mayor bloomberg back at this table. >> thank you
sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: tonight our focus is on what can be done so that the tragedy at sandy hook elementary school does not happen again. on friday december 14th a gunman killed 26 people, 20 of them were children between the ages of 6 and 7. it is the second deadliest mass shooting in american history. the killings have revived the debate on gun control and demonstrated the need to rethink our approach to mental illness. president obama traveled to the bereaved town to attend a community vigil and console families. here is a part of the president's address to the grieving people of that town, and to the nation. >> no single law, no set of laws can eliminate evil or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society but that can't an excuse for inaction. surely we did:do better than this. if there's even one step we can take to save another child or another parent or another town, from the grief that's visited tucson, aurora, and oak creek and newtown, and communities from columbine to blacksberg before that,
by the former "new york times" reporters. but what they were concerned about is being prepared for the national defense like the first world war and making sure that we have enough people in the country and how to use firearms so that we wouldn't be defeated if it came to a war. >> host: when i was going about my nra marksmanship badges i kept those badges. was a sort of private. >> guest: they still do a lot of worthwhile training and the ability to use firearms safely, but they became politically the leadership that had proven the gun control act was overthrown and replaced by others and eventually charlton heston became a spokesman for that action and now we have been firmly in the saddle, and politically it is a very different organization from what it was in 1968 very clearly. it's also been able to raise huge amounts of money and become maybe the most powerful lobby here in washington. and it plays basically on the backlash on people's fear of crime is rising and the police can't do anything about it, then how are we going to keep ourselves from being robbed and murdered, raped, salon? we
if your neighbor owns a gun? a new york paper thinks so, they published a map of people with gun permits and we'll talk to someone who is on that list in just a minute. >>> a snag for thousands of holiday travelers, the killer winter storm arrives in the northeast, we're already seeing long delays, hundreds of flights canceled, and highway traffic snarled. $1.1 billion toyota agrees to settle a class action lawsuit over unintended acceleration and also installed new safety features and a shark tank in a shopping mall explodes, sending sharks flying everywhere and shoppers running for their lives. newsroom starts now. >>> good morning, i'm carol costello. jobless claims fall to a four-year low. alison kosik joins us from the new york stock exchange to tell us more. >> this winds up being a big improvement for jobless claims number falling 12,000 last week to 350,000, and what that means is that the level now is close to the lowest level since the early part of the recession, so it really shows these layoffs are slowing. something interesting has been happening in the past several weeks. t
're awake. national affairs editor for new york magazine and msnbc political analyst john heilemann. >> yeah, hi. and from cnbc headquarters, co-host of cnbc's "squawk box" andrew ross-sorkin. >> do i need to make a joke about school being out? >> we're kind of tired of that. >> you've grown up. you went from being a little kid to an old man. >> he's a grizzled old vet. >> the gray hair is coming in. >> there's no in between. and from washington nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports" the lovely andrea mitchell. and "washington post" columnist and msnbc contributor jonathan capehart. thank you so much for being with us. why don't we just start really quickly with this story of the mere, mika, and that, of course, barack obama wins, the republicans lose, in a way that perhaps is more telling than just what one election result might suggest. >> well, i think it certainly does and it gives him a certain platform and credibility that perhaps he didn't have before. but watching as these fiscal cliff negotiations have gone through the holidays, it certainly is
ago. this is from the front page of today's "new york daily news." finally, from the front page is this report about what is ahead in terms of the gun control fight. we heard from the nra friday. let me read you a few sentences -- that was nearly 20 years ago in 1993. we will hear from that testimony in a couple of minutes. we want to get your calls and what is ahead in gun-control. roy is joining us from north carolina, the independent line, good morning. caller: it could be a bitter fight but i think some drastic action needs to be taken. it should be at least as burdensome for the gun owner as it is for a car owner. registration, insurance, testing, everything -- handguns are a big problem, too. i think it is so bad that the president should do some kind of executive order and put a moratorium on military rifles, at least, because around here in western north carolina, there are gun shops and people waiting for four hours to get to this ar-15. they say they will not take it out of the box, the majority of them. they will either have it as an investment or have it grandfathere
that in the people who are speaking out and those who are not, there's a shift in attitudes, as the "new york times" puts in their headline today, i think will be lasting. i don't know how any -- there are several networks, not just ours, having trouble finding pro gun advocates to speak out because there's really nothing to say at this point. can you think of anything in your political career, where something has happened and you realize you just can't take -- >> 9/11. 9/11 happened and there were a lot of conservatives after 9/11 very wary, very suspicious of federal government expansion, expansion of powers. and i'm one of them. that afterwards, you're like, okay, if the tsa wants to be intrusive, let the tsa be intrusive. if we have to do things that make me uncomfortable, as a small government conservative. fine. this is really, this is a domestic version of 9/11, where everything changed. >> everything did change. one thing joe manchin said yesterday, after he talked about his transformation and the way he thinks about guns and gun rights, was that the president needs to move quickly on this
of what over people may do when they hit puddles or something. >> reporter: in syracuse, new york, plows are working overtime. this car stuck with no place to go. >> the weather was bad. the winds were bad. blowing the cars around. you could see the semis were swerving. >> reporter: it's the city's first snowstorm of the season. many are bracing for more to come. john schriffen, abc news, new york. >> all right, thanks, john. >>> one area of severe weather to keep an eye on. accuweather meteorologist andrew baglini has the latest. >> we're tracking a disturbance that will give us bad weather. eastern texas around the houston area, thunderstorms will pop up. that spreads eastward throughout christmas tuesday. interstates 10 and 20, large hail, damaging wind gusts, the threat for tornado. a destructive storm system on this tuesday. the highest threat for tornadoes around new orleans, mobile, interstate 10 northward into the panhandle of florida. good snow across portions of the plains. >> i hate to see rough weather this time of the year. >>> let's look at weather from across the country.
new york today. boy, they don't need that. bonnie schneider with a look at the forecast. good morning. >> good morning. the storm we've been talking about is working its way to extreme northeastern new england. it is hitting canada hard. quebec is getting more snow. i mentioned yesterday that cold air would come in behind the system. it sure has. scranton at 26. below freezing in new york city at 31. just to let you know, it's not over yet. a brand new storm system set up these winter weather advisories for pennsylvania and into new york, washington, d.c., and the mountains of virginia. you can see also ohio slammed again after so much snow from the first system. so the way it's going to play out, saturday into sunday, this system is likely going to bring heavier snow to areas of northern pennsylvania in terms of snowfall totals. it's not going to be as big of a snowmaker or a blizzard maker from what we saw last time, but it will produce strong snowfall through central connecticut and rhode island. new england, you know winters can be long. winter is not officially -- is officially h
a shoot in pennsylvania. while he was giving the speech. two firefighters killed in webster, new york, after being ambushed be by a similar one by the shooter in newtown. a police officer was killed during a traffic stop. how come this steady toll doesn't keep our attention? shouldn't it add urgency to the debate? >> in washington, i get what the issue that have been on average, dealing with black kids, a newtown every 40 days in the last two years. >> say that again. >> every 40 days, when you take the number of black kids who have been shot and killed, there's been a newtown every 40 days. same with chicago. yeah, we're sort of used to it. what we must do is look at when you have a mass shooting, that focuses the attention and causes folks to say have you been asleep at the wheel when it comes to these other issues and we have. it is because again, america unfortunately has to have a major issue. a major issue to go oh, now let's do something about it. >> i think roland made a really profound point earlier when he was we always want a silver bullet when there's a thing like this. ex
with the sunday review section of the "the new york times" yesterday. we want to get your take on this. it does religion influence your politics? with more people saying they are unaffiliated. we want to get your take. here are some comments from facebook this morning. what are your thoughts on this december 24, 2012. it does religion influence your politics? let me show you this from "the new york times" this morning. a new poll out worldwide religion shows up that one out of six follows no religion. that is worldwide. all religions outside the united states as well. the upi story. religious identity affect voter choice. and then on the 2012 election, here is the pew forum on religion and public policy -- dorothy and baltimore, maryland. independent caller. what do you think? does religion influence your politics? caller: it does influence me somewhat but not so much now -- this time with obama. the reason why i say it does a little bit, you have to have a conscience when you deal with anything. especially when you make decisions for other people than yourself, you have to have a conscience. w
. >> yeah. good thing you're awake. national affairs editor for "new york" magazine and msnbc political analyst, john heilemann. >> hi! >> yeah. hi. and from cnbc headquarters, co-host of cnbc's "squawk box," andrew ross sorkin. >> do i need to make a joke about school being out? >> that's so yesterday. we're tired of that, actually. >> you like kind of grown. >> he went from being a little kid to adorable. >> he's a grizzled old vet. the grey hair is coming in. >> and from washington, nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent, host of "andrea mitchell reports", the lovely andrea mitchell. >> happy holidays. >> and "washington post" columnist, jonathan capehart. thank you all so much for being with us. and why don't we just start really quickly with the story of the year, mika. and that, of course, barack obama wins, the republicans lose. and in a way that perhaps is more telling than just what one election result might suggest. >> well, i think it certainly does. and it gives him a certain platform and credibility that perhaps he didn't have before. but watching as these fiscal cliff neg
. >>> want to bring in today's power panel. congressman gerald nadler of new york, jackie hilling and ezra klein, msnbc policy analyst and "washington post" columnist. jackie, i want to start with you. last night was the fourth time we as a country have watched this president have to address a national tragedy like this. i want to remind everybody of the last three times that we have seen the president take to a mic to comfort the country. >> it may be hard to comprehend the twisted logic that led to this tragedy, but this much we do know. no faith justifies these murderous and craven acts. >> this tragedy prompts reflection and debate, as it should. let's make sure it's worthy of those we have lost. >> i hope that over the next several days, next several weeks and next several months, we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence. >> can we recognize the president's words last night that enough is enough, and that something will come out of this, because right now, the country is in need of something stronger, and some resolve as we just point out with the
is the time to move forward. >> you make a good point. there's a suggestion in the "new york times" today that even if there is a deal, even if the president and speaker boehner can come to some sort of an agreement, there is the conservative wing of his party who could possibly block it. are you worried about even if there is an agreement between these two key players, that the republican side could keep it from happening? >> if speaker boehner exercises the leadership of his office and brings in a reasonably balanced program, he can pass that. he may not get the super majority among the republicans, he needs democratic votes in order to pass it. we understand that. but that's a good deal. where democrats and republicans come together to pass the legislation. don't do it just by getting the support within your own party. you need to reach out to the democrats. >> senator ben cardin, good to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> interesting, isn't it, how both sides have exactly the same message about who is compromising here and who is offering a plan. >> who has the ball on the
to 60 miles per hour. it won't be that bad. but boston, new york, d.c., check ahead. san francisco could have rain issues. fog in l.a. and a lot of people are hitting the roads, too. you need to know what the road conditions are like. fortunately, most of the nation looking pretty good. but slippery stuff in the lee of the lakes there, eastern great lakes. upstate new york. problems in new england, too. and back into the cascades and parts of the rockies. watch out for that. coming up in your nation's weather, i'm going to talk about the deep freeze that's going on in florida. that's right. it's cold in a lot of places. >> low temperatures in florida. get back here safe, ginger. it's been a hectic week for you. >>> we turn, now, to the fiscal cliff getting closer. just ten days until everybody's taxes go up and spending cuts kick in. and washington's a ghost town with no deal in sight. talks halted until after christmas, leaving just a few days to bang out some kind of plan before the deadline. abc's david kerley has the latest from the white house. david, before leaving us on the holida
. >>> first, let's get to the news here in new york city. five days out from christmas, 12 days away from the fiscal cliff deadline that could potentially cripple the economy. house republicans are expected to vote on plan "b." that's speaker john boehner's safety net proposal that would maintain bush era tax rates for everyone making a million dollars or less. >> about providing and working with us on a balanced approach. tomorrow the house will pass legislation to make permanent tax relief for nearly every american. 99.81% of the american people. then the president will have a decision to make. he can call on senate democrats to pass that bill or he can be responsible for the largest tax increase in american history. >> well, president obama has threatened to veto boehner's measure and he said republicans need to drop any personal grudges they might have to do what's best for the country. >> they keep on finding ways to say no as opposed to finding ways to say yes. and i don't know how much of that just has to do with, you know, it is very hard for them to say yes to me. but, you know,
with the winds. but look at this, 12 inches, a foot plus of snow possible in western new york. the worst of it tonight until tomorrow in new york state. and then we will begin to see this move out. hefty total of snow. here is the movement as we head toward early tomorrow. you see new york, new york state ensconced in snow. western pennsylvania as well. then by thursday morning, it is still there, and into maine and finally pushes all out. so victor, we're not done with this here. we have another two days, good news all the severe threat coming to an end by tonight and snow still a factor with the winds. >> rough weather on the start of the christmas travel season. rough weather on the back end of it. >> that's right. >> hopefully people make it through. alexandra steele, thank you for that. >>> a lot of people had the families in newtown in their hearts and on their minds over the christmas holiday. there is now a plan to save the thousands of the items honoring the sandy hook school shooting victims. the flowers, the signs, the teddy bears and the tributes will become part of a sacred
the chicago sun times and then bill deblazio, the public advocate for the city of new york who wants the city's pension funds to divest themselves of any monies invested in gun manufacturers. whoa. how about that. so lots of good people coming up. all of you as well, but first. >> this is the full court press. >> dan: fifteen seconds until world ends supposedly. other headlines making news a big change in the media world. cnn has hired abc news white house correspondent jake tapper to be its chief washington correspondent and anchor of a new afternoon show. tapper has been abc's white house man for four years and is known as one of the most aggressive reporters in the city. he will start at cnn early in the new year >> bill: congratuations, jake and and it may be the president won't have to worry about getting such disrespectful questions from him any more. >> he won't be in the briefing room any more. >> jonathan karl is going to take his place. >> jimmy kimmel spoke out about his big move abc moving the start time of his late night comedy show
for their own political short term. >> "new york times" is talking about the urgency issue in all of this, and lacking urgency that we have witnessed. they say, yeah, with days left before the fiscal punch lands, both sides are exhibiting little sense of urgency. rather than to foster progress. perry is that the biggest thing, the primaries moving out of this and how everything looks back? >> i think there are two things going on. the first is democrats generally feel they won a man dade. they're not backing down -- the second thing is the primary issue. you have members of congress say last week there was a proposal to raise taxes, and a lot of republicans said i can't vote for that, a million only tax increase. they were worried about primaries. that's driving this in a very strong way. >>> there are people in washington, d.c. that will tell us this is how it all happens. congressman tom cole appeared with luke russert on "the daily rundown." i want to play what he had to say. >> he had the complete support of everybody for plan b, and so this is a tactical debate and discussion, it's n
of abc news with terry moran, cynthia mcfadden and bill weir in new york city. this is a special edition of "nightline." tragedy at sandy hook. the search for solutions. >> good evening. i'm cynthia mcfadden. at 9:30 this morning, church bells across america rang out in a moment of national silence. one chime for each victim of the tragedy that struck newtown, connecticut, one week ago. yet even as this nation comes together to mourn, we remain deeply divided. all weeknight line has dedicated our broadcast to examining the complex relationship between america and its guns. tonight the most divisive day yet. here's my coanchor, terry moran. >> reporter: in newtown this morning, silence, one week after the children screaming and the madman shooting. sigh length across the country. silence in the oval office. and that ancient marker of mourning and remembrance, church bells. [ bells tolling ] >> reporter: the pain is still raw, the horror still fresh. but in washington the debate is already beginning and today a key voice, a powerful voice was at last heard. >> the national rifle associatio
former secretary of education bill bennett. "new york times" columnist david brooks. sociologist michael eric dyson. and the president president president. -- president of the american federation of teachers randi weingarten. >>> from nbc news in washington, this is "meet the press" with david gregory. >>> good sunday morning on a very difficult day for a small town in connecticut and for the entire country as we all grieve over the loss of life at sandy hook elementary. this morning we're getting a first look at the names and faces of some of the victims. 20 schoolchildren, eight boys, 12 girls, all first graders, and the six adults who died trying to protect them, including this heartbreaking video of a 6-year-old, anna marquez green, singing a hymn with her brother last summer. ♪ >> president obama will travel to newtown this afternoon to console victims' families and attend a community vigil. "the washington post" headline this morning sums up where we are nearly 48 hours after the shooting. wrenching details but few answers. that's where we want to start this special hour
. it was started by new york city mayor michael bloomberg and thomas nunino in 2006 but gaining momentum. susan candiotti joins me from new york. as i read about these funerals and the children, the details, it's just still overwhelming. that press conference yesterday, it was the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen from anyone, including especially the nra. is your plan to focus on gun control -- is it a move to help safety in school? what's going on here? >> well, we'll have to find out, i guess. in the wake of the tragedy of sandy hook elementary in connecticut, the nra, a lot of people thought, would offer some concessions and maybe depart from its hard line stance against gun control. but that didn't happen. nra leadership made no mention of a proposed assault weapon ban or tougher background checks or restricting the size of high-capacity magazines. instead saying the best way to protect children is to put armed police officers at every school. >> the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. the only thin
, ever enough. let's get right to our panel now. with me in new york is richard wolffe who's the v.p. and executive editor on msnbc.com and ari melber. there was almost the acknowledgment that this wild use of assault weapons is never going to be stopped by politicians. he said if we're going to change things it's going to take a wave of americans. mothers, fathers, daughters, sons, pastors, law enforcement. mental health professionals. it will take commitment and compromise. but most of all it'll take courage. why is that? >> that is because both political parties have failed for so long on this issue that no one expects them to get this done alone within the politics as usual. i thought we really witnessed a potential breakthrough today. i thought the president came out and spoke very eloquently and very honestly about both the barriers and why we must change, why this is different. why the country i think everyone is seeing is looking at all of these corpses of children. and having a reset that's something deeper than politics. i think while we know often washington is broken an
and get to places like new york city or cities in our state, and i have always said and will continue to say that those exceptions and the absence of a tougher federal legislation is not good for connecticut, not good for our cities, and, again, i also have firmly believed that these high capacity magazines are extremely dangerous. having said that, being in the top five, i think there have been people -- people have previously thought they have done enough in connecticut. i'm not saying i was one of those. i doubt that there's any one of those left. [ inaudible question ] now that it's been pointed out and i have taken the time to -- we could be compliant with the previous assault weapons ban limitation by going from a -- there's a common sense piece of legislation that could be taken up in the next session. >> we've been listening to a press conference by connecticut governor dannel malloy who noted there were many heroes in connecticut today, but there's also a great deal of pain, many unanswered questions, and grief beyond imagination. on this monday, december the 17th. >> all acr
morning, everyone. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman here in new york. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin, live in newtown, connecticut. we'll be bringing you the very late ef on the investigation as john said, the children are starting school as well with an increased police presence, will it be enough for the parents and of course we have another funeral we are following this morning for you as well. john? >> another beautiful young child we buried up there, four days after the school massacre that numbed the entire nation. this is the latest. this unspeakable tragedy is reigniting the gun control debate all over the country. president already taking steps to ban assault rifles with his vice president leading the charge. plus, this brand new overnight, dick's sporting goods has banned the sale of ar-15 rifles and other guns like it for now. the modern sporting rifle section of its website, totally blank this morning. the company releasing a statement saying, quote, out of respect for the victims and their families we have removed all guns in our store nearest to newtown and suspended th
. >> that's right. some of the decorations were provided by residents of long island, new york, who sent 26 christmas ornaments. >> i'm reading now online and twitter now that one way that people can kind of grieve and also honor the community and honor those victims is these random acts of kindness. i saw a friend who donated $260 to her favorite challenge. whatever you can do in the number of 26. so maybe that's a good way. if you're not there in connecticut to honor some of those victims. >> so many people feel connected to this story in many ways. >> how could you not? it is a tragically human story. so whatever any of us can do, we >>> this morning on "world news now," powerful punch. the holiday storm strong enough to unleash a mudslide to derail a train moves from west to east. >>> the heavy rainfall, the nasty snowfall and what all of that mess means to holiday travelers. it's wednesday, december 19th. >>> from abc news, this is "world news now." >> good morning. i'm sunny hostin in for paula faris. >> and i'm rob nelson. we'll show you the storm damage and also get the latest from
-old jack pinto, a new york giants fan, and noah pozner, whose twin sister survived the shooting. we are also learning new information about the connecticut state police investigation, including that the gunman, adam lanza, had enough ammunition if given more time to shoot hundreds of students in the halls of sandy hook. >> every single facet of the weapons will be analyzed. every single round of ammunition will be looked at and examined for any kind of physical evidence. i alluded yesterday to the volume of rounds, for example, that were seized or recovered. each singular round will be examined. >> president obama last night visited with families who lost loved ones inside that school. here, he is holding slain principal dawn hochsprung's baby granddaughter. the president sat among the mourners of newtown at the vigil and told them they are not alone in their grief. >> all across this land of ours, we have wept with you. we pulled our children tight. >> in this speech, one he penned largely on his own, the president promised the people of that community that their loss would not go
in the air. atlanta will have delays. as the system moves east on the weekend, even new york and boston will have delays from this storm. and then we'll talk about the west when we get back with the rest of the weather. it is a messy next couple of days. >> real sloppy. sam, thanks very much. >>> we'll get the latest on that fiscal cliff. down to 12 days before everyone's taxes go up and every government program is cut. and that is a little more likely this morning, with private talks frozen and both sides blaming each other for the breakdown. abc's jonathan karl has all this from washington. all of the focus on speaker john boehner's fallback plan, what he is calling plan "b." >> reporter: that's right, george. talks have got son low, i would say this is the low point, that boehner is moving ahead with the backup plan that the president so opposes, he says he will veto. under plan "b" most of the tax cuts will be extended for those making over $1 million. for those over $1 million, the tax rates would go up. this could do nothing to address the issues. like spending cuts and the debt c
rather than pierces it. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> that will definitely make you look twice, no doubt. thank you so much for starting your morning with us. much more ahead on cnn saturday morning, which starts right now. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. it's 8:00 am on the east coast, 5:00 am in the west. >>> powerful national rifle association, here's tom foreman. >> hey, randi, nra officials were quiet in the days following the newtown, connecticut, shooting, giving people time to mourn. now they are speaking up and they have a lot to say. despite protesters, the president and public opinion increasingly pushing against the gun lobby, the national rifle association sent a sharp message to its leader, wayne lapierre, no retreat. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with an a gun is a good guy with a gun. i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> reporter: in a wide-ranging statement, lapierre condemned the violence in connecticut, colorado and other places, but s
. and may provide renewed support for politicians willing to challenge the powerful nra lobby. >> new york senator chuck schumer criticized the nra vice president's argument that any attempt at gun restrictions is bound to fail. >> well, i think he's so extreme and so tone deaf that he actually helps the cause of us passing sensible gun legislation in the congress. >> reporter: a number of democratic congressman have pledged to consider reintroducing an assault weapons ban on sales of semiautomatic rifles and receipts trictions on certain ammunition. many firearm enthusiasts fear those new laws many fir many firearm enthusiasts fear those new laws and are voting shth their pocketbooks. at a denver gun show this weekend, ammunition for the ar- 15 semiautomatic rifle, the style of weapon used in the newtown attack, sold out within an hour. >> we're afraid we're not going o the able to keep our guns for our safety. and we're not doing anything wrong. >> reporter: it isn't clear yet whether the nation's second worst school shooting actually drives washington to change any gun laws. but a revie
:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ brand new details in the murder-suicide of n.f.l. star jovan belcher and cassandra perkins. the kansas city star and the "new york post" report that belcher spent the night drinking and partying with a girl named britney glass, at a popular bar district in downtown kansas city. belcher drove miss glass home, dropped her off and passed out in misbentley. 2:50 a.m., cops woke belcher up and told him not to drive. he called glass apt spent the next four hours in her apartment. at 6:45 a.m., he drove the bentley to his home where girlfriend perkins recently arrived with her own night out with friends. argument ensued and belcher shot perkins nine times. belcher's mother and baby were there for the shooting. after killing perkins, belcher kissed the lifeless body, walk toed his mother, kissed his baby girl and left. he drove five miles to the chiefs' practice field after several minutes of pleading with him, they couldn't talk belcher off the ledge. belcher thanked the coaches, knelt down beside a car, made a sign of a cross and put a shot to his fa
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